CHAMPIONS LEAGUE 2009: CHELSEA FC 1 - FC BARCELONA 1 - BARÇA GO INTO FINAL. CAN WE DEBATE THIS? RATIONALLY?

Its a UEFA conspiracy, hijacked, robbed, missed penalty 1, 2, 3, 4
...none called, the worst referee ever? Chelsea FC unfairly &
deliberately taken out from the Champions League? Harsh words, &
Press headlines charged with bitter emotion from fans, players &
English Football professionals. Reminds SFS that these same words

were used by Real Madrid when Liverpool were given a penalty that
was not ( eg Heize hand?) in the Q/Final clash. In fact, these are
the
same words used by every team & by local press universally
when they
lose important Football matches. Back to yesterday...
























Drogba – “it’s a “f*cking disgrace”
Hiddick – “my team was robbed …, the worst referee seen in my
entire life, 3 to 4 penalties not called”
The British Press - “Uefa conspiracy to not repeat another English
Champions Final”

Can we debate this? Can we look at it all from a cold & rational
perspective using only Football (Soccer) concepts as instruments
of understanding?

EliteFootballTalk Blog
is essential reading if your a serious Football fan that wishes
more than just to read up on the results & scorers. Based
fundamentally on English Football its daily analysis surpasses
frontiers to make its applied concepts, Football arguments & its
thinking debates a Universal affair.

Yesterday the EFT Team, under one of its authors “Redsman”,
posted an article that analyzed the CHELSEA FC 1 – FC
BARCELONA 1 (SEE VIDEO OF GOALS ON THE BELOW POST) 2º leg
Champions League Semi-Final
clash. A match that was covered
under a controversial background with its dramatic ending & with
an emotionally charged atmosphere created - & understandably
by those directly
affected, the Chelsea fans & Chelsea players who
the latter some quiet frankly exhibited unsportsmanlike behaviour,
that although understandable under the emotion, lacked rational
arguments & should be sanctioned.

SFS is going to publish entirely the EFT article as it believes it is
one of the most rational, coldly analyzed & intelligent articles up
on the web – or anyplace – that looks at this amazing game with
a crystal clear vision. SFS believes its readers will appreciate this
angle as much as SFS enjoyed & benefited from reading it
yesterday. Here is the EFT post:

"Chelsea 1-1 Barcelona: Don't blame the man in the
middle; blame themen on the outside
" (Author REDSMEN)

The referee in tonight's Champions League semi-final 2nd leg at Stamford Bridge
was Norwegian Tom Ovrebo. The headlines of the English papers tomorrow will
metaphorically 'scream' it was his fault why Chelsea went out of the semi-finals,
went out of the one chance they had to avenge their defeat last year. As far as
I'm concerned, yes, Mr Ovrebo was at fault. But he wasn't the only one.

Mr Ovrebo was at fault for the lack of progress for Chelsea. I can only think of f
our potential penalty shouts that occurred in the game, I believe there could have
been one more. First, Florent Maluda took on Dani Alves (who, for me, was
something of a disappointment to say the least tonight) and then turned back on
him. Alves clearly impeded the Frenchman and a free-kick was given. Alves was at
the time inside his penalty box, Malouda was outside. I don't think that was a penalty.

Drogba took on Yaya Toure in the box, once played in by Frank Lampard. Toure
grabbed Drogba's shirt but Drogba went down only after the ball was out of his
control. That was a penalty for me. Nicolas Anelka touched the ball near the
Barcelona penalty box, Gerard Pique had his right arm raised before Anelka played
the ball and the ball comes off Pique's hand. That, to me, was a penalty.

The last Chelsea corner came to Michael Ballack, he swung a shot towards goal
and it came off Samuel Eto'o, off his left arm. Eto'o was in position before the
ball was struck. That wasn't a penalty and Ballack's disgraceful, ugly harassment
over the referee afterwards rightly earned a booking
.
























Now, aside from those penalty shouts, what did Chelsea do to earn the win?
They had Michael Essien aim at the ball and score a superbly taken left-foot
volley. It put them ahead 1-0 after the ninth minute. Thirty six minutes later
they hardly came at Barcelona, the away side made most of the football. What
Chelsea did was play defensively in front of the penalty box, they had numbers
in position in spaces to deny Barcelona that space to play their little through
balls, their little passes. They defended deep to avoid Barcelona playing the
long through balls, and their task was made all the more easier with Thierry
Henry withdrawn.
















People will say 'what is wrong with that?', but while it was cunning to thwart Eto'o
and Lionel Messi from those movements around and through the defence, thwart
the passing and breaking by Andres Iniesta and Xavi, it stopped Chelsea from their
usual attacking flow, at home. Their usual break from the midfield three, with
Lampard threading passes to the flanks and then joining late, was missing, and it
left Drogba on his own having to battle with Toure. Toure was fortunate to have
escaped twice from possible Drogba-breaks on goal.

I can only think of one moment in the second half when Chelsea came forward,
with Anelka drawing defenders to him and then passing to Drogba, who turned
Pique and then shot weakly at Victor Valdes, with the rebound gathered and shot
by Lampard blocked, and then Malouda hitting the side netting. That was it.

Then Eric Abidal (another defender who failed tonight and who I have never
rated for club nor country) was taken to have fouled Anelka on the run and was
red-carded, although replays showed Anelka tripped over his own leg with no
contact from Abidal. Another bad decision. But that didn't even push Chelsea to
surge onto Barcelona's goal. Chelsea seem to have felt comfortable a goal up,
a man up, and then simmered. And that led to Barcelona's goal.


That slacking in focus, that same focus that denied Barcelona space last week
and tonight, allowed for Barcelona to maintain the ball from a cross, with Messi
receiving and playing it to Iniesta, who had the time and space to take a chance
first time. Ballack was the nearest player and he ducked or turned away from the
shot. It was practically the only effort Petr Cech had to move to. It was the one
time Chelsea afforded Barcelona space to do something......and it cost them.




















I watched the game with others and I said to them that if Barcelona were to
take a chance first time, they could score. That was because whenever Barcelona
got within sniffing distance of the penalty edge, they were being snuffed out, and
that was because not only did Chelsea deny them space, but also because
Barcelona seemed to want to walk the ball into the area as they mostly do in La
Liga. Defences open more to them in the Spanish league, whereas here Chelsea's
plan was to close up tight. The one moment Barcelona took the opportunity first
time they scored, it was the only shot on target from them.

Don't blame the referee entirely. Chelsea still had the majority of the game to
play for and they hardly did that. Depending on penalty appeals to get them
through was desperate. They didn't play the attacking football they are renowned
for. In both legs Barcelona were the attacking team and it is they who earned their
passage into the final. And it is ironic that where Barcelona looked more vulnerable
with Abidal off, where Chelsea became too relaxed, that it was then when Chelsea
lost control of their focus. And the whole tie.

The reactions after the game were understandable but I cannot condone them.
I can understand when (not if) a driver cuts up another driver, the first driver
becomes frustrated and displays that frustration towards that second driver,
from their car seat, but that's it. I cannot condone road-rage, especially where
it can almost come to violence. The Chelsea players are understandably upset but
they individually dealt with their disappointment, with a few not visibly becoming
animated towards the referee. Nor the camera.

We all have disappointments and if we allow our emotions to take over, people
will be at each other's throats daily. What's next, a throw-in is not given and
the referee has to run for cover? A child is denied a free-kick and swears at the
referee? I don't want bad habits coming into football. Disappointments are to
be dealt with with maturity, not in the manner seen tonight. When you add up
that, without the penalty appeals, Chelsea didn't play enough for the win, you
should realise Mr Ovrebo isn't the only one at fault for Chelsea's exit. But it is
easier to target him than to look at the players themselves.

RedsMan.

SFS thanks Elite Football Talk Blog. Now the debate is open!

8 comments:

RedsMan said...

Thank you Striker. Quoting me on here is a compliment, and yet the backlash right now is something else. The referee being escorted out of England into Norway admist death threats? We're losing football to thuggery.

Didnt this happen with Anders Frisk last time Chelsea felt aggrieved? It's disgraceful. Broadcastings like Sky Sports News now show the referee's profile, as if he HAS to be investigated.

Now he is banned from speaking out in public over the game and the outcome by UEFA until further notice. And I wish to add that in the face of the furore he faced, the referee, Tom Henning Ovrebo, was tremendous and stern in turning them all away. And to talk about whether he can referee in Europe again....well he should do, where I'm concerned.

Roma had to play behind closed doors for when their fans' behaviour resulted in Frisk being injured. UEFA are awaiting Ovrebo's matrch report before they consider taking any action.

One of our former top referees, Dermot Gallagher, looked on the four penalty appeals Chelsea had and decided that the same two that I would have allowed were the only two he would have given. It still stands that Chelsea otherwise did not do enough to win the game. They should get animated with themselves more than the referee.


RedsMan.

STRIKER said...

The emotions blur the rational. Football is a game & not a do or die situation.

With time the waters will calm.

Once again. Excellent post Redsmen...clinical, rational & seen from a 100% Football perspective!
Cheers

Anonymous said...

the english are sore loosers , i am a barca fan , living in manchester and i have to say we deserved a penalty in the first leg when henry got draged to the ground and chelsea deserved one penalty when it hit pique's hand , thats it , it was in the end even , both got a penalty decision taken away and if chelsea players keep diving then u can't give a penalty every time. drogba was awful tonight with his behaviour , i remember when he chested a ball and suddenly fell to the ground in the box and stayed don for a lon time even though there was no contact , bunch of divers.
NAZ , Manchester

Adrian said...

Thank you both for these posts Striker and Redsman.

Even though I'm biased as a Barcelona fan I like to think of myself as a pretty fair soccer fan and I agree with the statements made here. Certainly some of the refs decisions were questionable. But every game has questionable calls by refs. You can't rely on getting a call to win a game. You have to attack and try and get those goals. Chelsea should not have been so complacent with their one goal. The strategy of always defending works rarely and makes for bad soccer. Also you ALWAYS have to be respectful towards the ref.

Once again. Thanks guys.

Sachin said...

Good post that you put up SFS. And like RedsMan said it is easier to target the ref than looks at one's own faults. I remember in the first leg, Chelsea were quite nasty in some tackles but they got away with it. I forgot who it was but maybe it was Ballack should have been sent off for a tackle? Still, Drogba should have put away the gift he got in the first leg. He didn't and Chelsea didn't even try to score. They needed an away goal to be safe coming back home.

Overall, Chelsea's behavior is worrying not only yesterday but in other games. Quite a few Chelsea players are always looking for a fight. They wanted to fight with Juventus this season. In the 2007 Carling Cup final, Chelsea got into a tussle with Arsenal because Mikel is always a red card waiting to happen.

Chelsea were a nicer team before Jose Mourinho came along. Since then, they have this ugly nasty streak that shows itself well when they lose. And like pointed above, it was Jose whose incorrect comment forced a very good ref like Anders Frisk to retire because of death threats he got.

I don't think there is a conspiracy at all. Chelsea didn't play to win in the first leg and with the quality they have, they should gone at Barca with attacking football not simply parking the bus.

SoccerFan said...

Jesus H Christ if i can wade through these drooling barca fans and make a point that would be lovely, thanks. I mean that not just in this forum but everywhere at the moment, the tv/media people get paid / are told to be nice to the referee, and the aforementioned droolers (isnt just the barca fanboys tho tbh, anyone thats not a chelsea fan seems to hate chelsea for no good reason) latch on to the bs, hug it and milk it over and over.

The media people are kind to the referee, and are trying to shift blame to the chelsea players, going on about their complaining when they were totally justified. And the reson is more obvious than anyone can see. I feel surrounded by blind people, too distracted by the everything except the football. "Football is a game of opinions" they were saying on the sky phone in show. Well, no it isnt, it has rules like any sport, no opinion is involved, except the ref. Football these days is about one thing, CONTRAVERSY. It gets everyone talking, it gets them emotional, and it gives people something to talk about. Theres no decent reason for not having video replays used to aid decisions. Would take too long you say? Well how about how they do it in tennis, each team has a certain numbers of appeals per half or something, its not like the players would call for an appeal if he knows he dived. He wouldnt dive in the first place because the other team could call him on it. Or how about the other favourite, "its not fair because u cant have it the same at grass roots level, and it should all be the same" - well... why? its not like that in ANY other sport. when u think about it, it shouldnt be, the highest lvl of a sport should be better officiated, better ran, more organised, this is WHY it is the top lvl, not just the skill of the players. Only the rulers of the game and the media have got together and are trying as best they can to keep referees, keep the contraversy, so people watch their game / buy their newspapers / call in on sky sports.

It saddens me that the only people who saw what really happened are football fans like me. I dont support any team. I am a FOOTBALL fan. I love the spirit of competition, the teamwork, and the skill all woven together FAIRLY.

So, taking this into account and talking only about the football, was the semi an injustice? yes. Look, the spanish primera league is not good football, and it is not sport. It is entertainment. It is no longer a sport when the players are not interested in winning, just looking good. If half the teams in the SPL were half as tactically sound as ANY EPL team, then barca wouldnt have this ridicuclous goal record this season because more teams would go and shut them out in the Nou Camp. But no, ur all as stupid as that bayern manager, "fight fire with fire" he said, tell to a fireman, or his team lol. In the premier league we have SPORT franchises, these business use everything in their power to build the most successful team, not the best looking one. And as we've seen in the CL last year (barca v manu) and now this year (cheats v chelsea), the best spanish sides cant compare to the tactical prowess, power and devotion to WINNING, in any way, that the premier league sides have. I owul even say EPL players are more skilled, sure the SPL looks better but try giving the players of man u or arsenal the sort of space barca get in SPL and see who looks a better team... And dont give me bull about it being unfair because english sides have so much money. I could go on about spanish and italian sides being so involved with politics / royalty, barca / real are like country wide institutions over there, nothing like how man u / chelsea / arsenal are treated over here, by people who arent fans obv; but i will make the obv point that every league has its time, now is for the EPL, so FUCK U PLATINI.

This is the spirit of competition, fairness, power, passion, and an unstoppable will to win. These are what i like to see. Not paid off referees fulfilling UEFA's supremely unfair attitude to english sides.

If you are a SPORT fan, and not a contraversy fan. Then u should be appalled at that game. Because if all the rules were observed dilligently, using video technology, chelsea would have had 2 pens (AT THE VERY LEAST!), have been 3 nil up, and barca with their one shot, one goal wonder game plan /end sarcasm would have been sent packing back to the inferior spanish league.

PS if the ref wasnt paid off then it was some form of involuntary hypnosis or something because even an english referee isnt so brain-dead ignorant.

PPS yes im a little angry so theres a bit of emotion in my writing, but as i said, im not a chelsea fan, if anything im a man u fan, but all us nuetrals are rly just barca or man u fans right? ;) anyway i want to apologise incase anyone takes offence at my anger, its not really directed and i think i control it well.

lastly, redsman u couldnt be more biased, how can u honestly say that malouda was outisde the box for the first pen!? u obviously havent watched any more of the match since it aired and ur using selective memory. I remember it clearly, and i remember the replays and i remember SEEING the same thing every time - the ONLY part of either player outside the box was malouda's foot planted just the other side of the line, and at an angle so even with an imaginary wall on the line most of malouda was in the box.

Theres probably a hell of alot more wrong with ur "assessment" but im not going to waste my day, hell i dont know if this will get posted.

SoccerFan said...

OMG i didnt realise you had to approve the ones that get on there, well guess my bit of truth spitting wont be seen, gd job i saved it. im gonna go to a few other sites with it. Its tru what i said u know, post it if u have the balls.

RedsMan said...

That has been a key point raised elsewhere I have read. That Chelsea, with their multi-millions and multi-million players, are screeching at Ovrebo over four penalty decisions he didn't give them. That taken away, as well as the chance they had when Drogba then Lampard had shots blocked, and the sending-off, what else was there in Chelsea's entire game? I'll tell you, the very tactic they used in both legs of defensive positioning, ie 'parking the bus' or 'PTB'.

If you're not familiar, 'PTB' is when a team simply has eight to ten outfield players all hanging back near their goal to protect it. These many numbers around the penalty edge then denies the space most teams use to exploit gaps and make breakthroughs, runs, passes, shots on goal.

I remarked Chelsea held defensively for most of the two legs, to deny Barca that space. They therefore hardly came out to attack, and when they did it was to appeal at the end. How often is it physically probable for a man of Drogba's stature to fall down in a game? And then to beat the ground like a spoilt child in a shop was something else. But the Chelsea fans simply wish to evade that scene.

I'm impartial. If Liverpool played well, I'd say it; if badly, I'd say it. Chelsea went down to an early goal in 2005, the 2nd leg of the CL semis at Anfield. They had 89mins+ to score just the one goal, just like Barcelona. Only one away goal. Chelsea did have the players capable of doing so that night: Gudjohnsen, Joe Cole, Makelele, Lampard, Robben, and the man himself, Drogba. On the bench they had Robben and Forssell. But they didn't score.

Who did they have on Wednesday? Lampard, Drogba, Essien, Ballack, Anelka, Kalou on the bench, Belletti can shoot from distance and has scored in the league, Malouda even. Still only one goal. They couldn't even press to score another especially after the sending off. And they wish to bleat they were denied victory??

UEFA, under my leadership, should seek to ban Ballack and Drogba from European football for 10 games. Anyone else for punishment would depend on the match report. I read a Chelsea fan say Barca should be punished for when Abidal took time to leave the pitch after the red card, if Chelsea are to be punished. The two moments are so not comparable, and in any event the Barca players were understandably upset but it did not reach the same level as Chelsea's animation. No way near it.

Now I'm awaiting what UEFA has to say. I wonder if they will remember about Mr Frisk. Thanks God the fans didn't follow suit.


RedsMan.

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