Yesterday in Barcelona, Scottish & Rangers fans gave us & the world an re-enactment of the then state of mentality & how barbarians acted & lived back then, & all for free!
As animals they grouped up together to express their joy in visiting one of Europe´s centers of culture, & to celebrate in the name of their team & city - Glasgow- tonight's FC Barcelona vs Glasgow Rangers Champions League group game.
To show their respects to their warm & friendly hosts, Rangers barbarians pissed on the statue of Francesc Macia, equivalente if a Spaniard went & pissed on a statue of "St.Andrews" or "Robert The Bruce". A fairly understandable mistake if you take into account the zero culture of the individuals & their lack of mental evolution since 800 years ago.
SFS knows beforehand that these 000s Scottish performers are NOT a true representation of the city of Glasgow nor of lovely Scotland. However, the question goes out to all the educated, European & humanitarian 21st Century Scottish folk : How long will you permit that these one brain celled walking animals be the worldwide image of the country & of your long valiant history & culture?
With such zero capacity for rationality the responsibility falls on the former & not on this army of walking shit roaming aimlessly drunk around Barcelona. What are they doing in Barcelona if they have not any tickets to see their team or the game? Irrational behaviour for irrational individuals.
Lastly, too prove that their visit has nothing to do with Football, we will surely witness "ACT II" of this tragic play tonight, independently if their team wins or loses.
139 comments:
Disgusting , feel ashamed.
Getting drunk and acting stupid is a tactic some in the English-speaking world use to scare away the alarming amount of pickpockets in Spain.
If you are in a large group and don't look like you would respond violently, there's a chance you will also be hit by a brick.
My ship had 35 assaults in Cartagena, 42 in Barcalona, and 65 in Palma. All were minding their own business and most were robbed.
Somehow, all the drunk a-holes remained unscathed.
Jimmy , & pissing on the statue of Francesc Macia , frightens off pickpocketers?
Imagine I went with 1000 mates to your home, & invited, & we all decided to piss all over your house, jump into your bath & flood the houes & drink all your alcohol ( paying off course) to later beat you up. Do you wish to invite me?
Dont argue with your rationality. However, thanks for your input.
Just to point out this; this problem is with Rangers fans not Scots or Glaswegians(half the rangers support wear england tops to rangers games: mugs). Celtic the other team from Glasgow travel the world and are accepted everywhere even winning awards from uefa for fans conduct following there run in the uefa cup, these nuts get in trouble everywhere and are banned from travelling to some citys in England. The problem is that rangers are a bigoted fascist club with no real idea of who they are or what they stand for. sad really
Boldyin , thanks for the comment.
As said , theses brainless bunch do NOT represent the mayority of honest, law abidding & cultured Scots.
Yes, I think we'll all agree the critique is against this embarrassing group of Rangers fans - not against a race or entire culture of people. All of us, save perhaps sir "Chowda" above, who's decided all of Spain are brutes and pick-pockets, never stopping to think that perhaps he himself is just an easy "mark," as we like to say here in Chicago. (Go ahead, Jimmy, tell us what all the citizens in Chicago are like.)
A well writen critique, Striker, keep it up. By the way, there was what I thought an impressive display at center field after today's game, where several of the Rangers players appluaded the home crowd and fans at Nou Camp. Good for them.
John ,
What the Rangers fans forget is that one of their players NOVO is Spanish. Thats the way they applaude his work & goals , flying to his "home" & pissing all over it.
Perhaps they didn't realize that "spanish" meant "from Spain." I wouldn't put such idiocy beyond the morons pictured in your column. The next time those fans come to Barcelona, someone should spread around a rumour that what realy insults the people in Spain most is when foreigners piss into their wall-sockets.
I was in Barcelona when Celtic were playing there a few years ago and witnessed similar scenes so I don't think this is only a probelm with Rangers fans.
i'm sure your vast number of pickpockets were very happy to see us, as were the hoteliers and shopkeepers whose tills we filled this week. perhaps if you provided toilets in the square, things would not have been so bad. you may call our fans barbarians but in the nou camp last night your fans repeatedly chanted "IRA." Support of a terrorist organisation is hardly the act of a civilised people.
If Rangers fans behaved like Scots rather than British idiots there would not be this problem. They have the 'Bulldog mentality' that looks down on the rest of the world. Until this changes (if it can) then they will always embarass themselves and the Scottish nation.
Anonymous,
Thanks for your comments.
Provide toilets? You assume initially that a public space y Ok to go & get pissed...what about a pub, your home & friends place?
That Barça fans chanted IRA slogans ... what can I say , there are idiots everywhere.
Its very simple. Would you act this way at your home? No. So why in anothers?
i was in barcelona yesterday and yes there was some problems but if you take into account the amount of rangers fans the trouble was very isolated and the vast majority of fans were very well behaved.
as for rangers fans being the only fans to behave like this who are you all trying too kid ,i have barely missed a game home or away in the last 22 years and have seen various fans in various cities behave alot worse and i wont even get started foreign authorities.
p.s. all you scots check your passports i think you will find you are british citizens even if you dont like it
When Barcelona fans arrived in Glasgow, we had set up a fanzone for them where they could gather, have a few beers, meet the locals etc My point is, would it have been too much trouble for Barcelona to have done something similar and set up temporary toilets in the placa de catalunya? When I last watched Rangers in Germany the local council set up toilets in the main square and there were no problems. You've said we should have drunk in bars, well we did. They were all full. The Spanish authorities will have known only to well that Rangers fans as with most British fans would have chosen to drink in the square.
I was in Barcelona yesterday and also inside the ground last night. I´m Scottish AND a ´gers fan but some of the behaviour I saw yesterday was disgusting and to be honest I don´t think I´d follow Rangers abroad again. Can somebody tell me what satisfaction people get from shouting ´fuck the pope´ in the centre of a city in a catholic country? Shameful. Saw fighting inside and outside the ground. Would like to point out though that this crap ONLY involves 1% of the TRUE loyal fans.
Totally agree its only 1%, but the image is worldwide & thus local (Scottish) authorities should begin to take matters on.
Imagine how Rangers player NOVO , whos Spanish, felt!
I am sure if the Spanish had provided proper toilet facilities then no one would have pissed against any monuments 20000 or more rangers fans went to Barcelona to have a great time.
There will always be a minority that cause problems but as I already said it is up to the Spanish to host such an event and provide proper conveniences
When the Spaniards visited Glasgow they were catered for in the city centre all day
We have a great travelling support and other teams in Europe should look at how we host a match day in Glasgow. no arrangements were made to make fans welcome and to give them a taste of your culture and then you leave them to there own devices and complane when they do somthing you dont like .
As for the comments about us being a backwards culture that lives 400 years ago.
Take a look at the Spaniards and the torture of the bulls in the very city that was over run by barbaric hairy ass Scots last night (dont make me laugh)
Make bridges not war
How many Spanish people went out to party with the Scots?
Alastair
Angry backward small brained Scott
i accept that there are issues with some rangers fans like there are with some fans from every club in the world ,as a whole erveryone who was in barcelona would agree there was a great party atmosphere and very little trouble with only minor incidents occuring even the riot police managed to behave themselves .
no one is saying we are perfect but i think everyone would agree we are improving as a whole
the fact that many locals including couples in excess of 60 years of age freely walked through the very large groups of fans to take in the atmosphere tell you the behaviour could NOT have been that bad at all.
hi striker i was just wondering where all the spanish reporters and camers people went to when innocent rangers fans (men women and children) were being beaten by SPANISH police in both villa real and ossasuna for absolutely nothing ,it is very convenient that these things are just tucked away under the carpet but of course urinating and drinking in a public place is alot worse than unprevoked violent assaults on innocent people .
things like this would not happen to any foreigners coming to anywhere in the uk.
I don't believe they were "SPANISH police" not even Spanish police. They must have been the Mossos, which are Catalonians. Being from Scotland you should have been able to notice the difference. Or you were too drunk? Or looking for a monument to pee?
I refuse the idea to alter any city life because of football fans that don’t know how to behave.
They should ban Rangers from European competitions because of their supporters. They and you are responsible of your behaviour. Not us. Not the lack of street toilets. Why don't you travel with your own toilet?
Not to mention the "civilized" bigotry that emanates from the Rangers fans in these posts.
English clubs and supporters learned from their ban. It's Rangers turn now.
Another chance for the majority of Rangers haters to jump on the bandwagon and tarnish us all due to a minority of drunken idiots i suppose all these other fans have never got drunk on cheap beer on their hols and made a fool of themselves aye right,as for the Celtic fans whose supporters rioted at celta vigo airport whose supporters had an airoplane diverted to Wales coming HOME from an away game whose supporters spout irish republican crap at every away game they play dont try and slag us you dont have the moral high ground and never will remember Celtic are the most anti-British club in the UK know matter how much you pretend otherwise, and yes as a true Rangers supporter i wish the mindless idiots (the minority)would not follow Rangers abroad.
Apologies to all Catalans for the pathetic behaviour of Rangers fans. It is an embarrassment to all REAL Scots. Rangers FC should apologise, and ban the identified 'fans'. Total lack of respect - and education. Please dont judge Scots on the acts of these mindless idiots - they are not big men but pin heads. Real Scots love Catalans and respect their history. We have much in common, especially hating this kind of mindless behaviour. Losers.
From an ashamed Scotsman.
Ger4Life:
Don't try and sway this argument away from the basic facts - yes it is true that Celtic, like every club in the world, has their share of idiots that will spout bigotted abuse and disgrace the name of the club - but lets look at the biggest fact here:
Celtic took 80,000+ fans to Seville, drank the beer, packed the cafe's, pubs and clubs, went to the game or the umpteen screens that were provided to watch the game (myself being one of them!) and how many arrests were there? how many reports were there of bad behaviour? how many residents complained or felt the need to post blogs like this to highlight how out of order Celtic fans were? Yes we partied, hard, and we packed every square and street that was steeped in tradition and history, even outside a church, but had the dignity and respect that we expect from visiting fans to ensure that everyone had a great and respectful time!
Oh and we even got an award for enjoying ourselves without disgrace....it is easy you know! Oh and I can't remember this backlash when we went to Barcelona....
Anyway, to the point, 2 of my mates were over in Barcelona and i know they wouldnt have acted like the minority of idiots. So I do feel for the true fans who are tarnished with the same ugliness that these louts deserve.
More importantly, it is more infuriating for us Scots who pride ourselve on the way we behave and our warm and welcoming nature - everyone who will be in Glasgow next saturday to WELCOME the Italians will witness this.....heres hoping these complete waste of spaces stay at home!!!
This is probably the most boas report i have ever seen. Not speaking as a fan if RANGERS FC myself but does the person writing this actually think taking a few pics of Rangers fans baring their arses from a kilt actually warrent such negative comments?
Its clear your hatred is for rangers in general. I see write-ups like this every day, and you do sound pretty well educated. SO why stoop down to the level of celtic are good, rangers are evil crap?
Yes, rangers have some bad support, as do celtic. But this definately DOES NOT warrant such a negative report.
Take your anti-rangers/british crap elsewhere.
Oh and i dont think nacho novo would care too much for rangers fans taking a leek on this catalan statue, his is infact from SPAIN, not catalunia as they live in their own little 'couhtry'
franny bhoy, dream on. I've heard numerous reports of celtic fans mugging other celtic fans in seville and nicking tickets and seen you tube footage of your fans singing IRA songs in the square. Its easy to believe rangers fans are always the bad guys but its a load of nonsense. i'm not saying we are better than celtic fans but i am looking for some parity in terms of the coverage we get. rangers fans are only in the news when the misbehave whereas celtic news tends to be positive stuff. when celtic fans step out line, as they do repeatedly, it tends to get brushed under the carpet. incidentally, the only trouble I saw in barca was caused by their ultras who were draped in celtic tops for some reason and chanted IRA throughout the match.
My sister lives and works in Barcelona and has always got a hard time from the Catalans for being Scottish. They will not speak to you if you don't speak Catalan. She speaks Catalan and heard Rangers fans trying to speak Spanish to them and they were being rude back!
I agree that some of the Rangers fans behaviour was not acceptable, but nobody is mentioning the majority of fans who behaved themselves!
Some of the Catalan press are racists. Christins Puig (TV3), and some of journalists have been making racist comments about the Scottish! I think this behavior is appalling and is promoting racism. They should be ashamed of themselves!
I meant Cristina Puig!
Peeing in the street! I saw a video clip on Spanish TV this week showing Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid) doing the exact same!
I feel quite sad about all of this. I lived in Barca for a year and made a lot of friends there. It's a shame that negative articles like this are being posted. To be honest if this kind of thing had happened in Britain nothing would have been made of it. People went & enjoyed themselves & to be honest you expect british fans to behave in this way. People paid a lot of money to go over there of course they are going to drink a lot. I think peeing on monuments however is out of order but if you have nowhere to go to the toilet then that's what happens. What the catalans need to understand is that this is how people behave in Scotland when they are having a good time. How would it have been any different if 20,000 Celtic fans had gone over? Are you trying to say that they wouldn't have drunk as much or that they wouldn't have peed outside?
how sad that rangers fans cant accept their bad behaviour and instead start to shoot the messenger..your defence is..whit about the sellick fans ! the unbaised people of barcelona have the cheek to complain that you peed in their streets and on their monuments, started fights and left the place looking like a tip, who do these catalians think they are..'we are the people' and we piss and fight where we want !
When Der Hun gets in trouble its amusing to see them roll out the "Facts" regarding Celtic fans. Der Hun has an in built mechanism to combust spectacularly when mixing with other people. Personally I think it can be pinponted to Der Hun having his brain frozen in the 17th century or possibly they were dropped on their heads as a kid and fell under a steamroller. Der Hun is a backward animal, usually found raiding dustbins and trying unsuccessfully to chat up his sister.
Der Hun knows no laws, he'll beat his chest and eat your dog and thats a throwback to the colonial ideals the imbeciles hold so dear.
how sad, a person who is i assume form barcelona posts about the disgusting behaviour of an element of rangers supporters.
A fair minded rangers supporter tells us he is ashamed to be a rangers fan and wont travel abroad again having seen fighting in and outside the ground and disgusting behaviour.
What is ger4lifes solution?
start talking about celtic and accuse them of bad behaviour.
I am sure the blogger who wrote this has no celtic connections and hasnt considered celtic in this, a fact shown by him not using the word celtic in his article.
A typical rangers response. Try and spread the blame and incriminate as many others as you can, easier than looking closer to home.
sad, very sad.
Oh dear...
http://www.elmundo.es:80/elmundo/2007/11/08/videos/1194511163.html
This timmys face is priceless.
Fight for your right to pee!
In the words of the late Ian Archer: "Rangers are a permanent embarrassment and an occasional disgrace"
I found this blog through a website and felt the need to add my own comment on the behaviour of Rangers fans in Barcelona. I happened to be in Barcelona for a few days on business and have to say I was appalled by the way these "animals" conducted themselves.I tried to avoid them at all costs, but they were pretty plague like and seemed to be almost everywhere one went. I then had to endure a flight home to London on Tuesday night, on flight BA487 to Heathrow in the company of some of these subspecies who are disguised as human beings on a flight. Most of these creatures on board were singing songs, they were stomach churning to say the least, very very offensive and littered with obscene language, most have a gory fascination with the Pope. Being a Catholic I was deeply offended by this. They thought that maybe the attendants on the flight would be interested in their sexual advances, which were nothing short of pornographic descriptions. They were like cockroaches scurrying along the aisles on the flight home back and forth to the toilets after obviously having consumed their own body weight in alcohol, no monuments on BA flights for them to urinate on, thank goodness, how some managed to get on the plane is beyond me. The flight was delayed from landing, I was to assume because of the behaviour of certain passengers. So much so the Police boarded the plane upon landing and actually removed several of the more serious offenders of the singing and shameful behaviour on board, before other passengers were allowed to depart. In all my days of commuting to and from other countries that has to have been the worst flying experience ever. I have travelled before with football fans, including Celtic football supporters and in the whole it has been very good, even quite comical moments from some. Never have I travelled with a more offensive ignorant group of individuals who were very intimidating in their manner towards other passengers including women and children. I'll make sure to check in case Rangers and their hordes of filth are travelling before I share another flight abroad with these creatures who were absolutely revolting. They truly were shameful in my experience of them.
Please dont judge all Rangers fans as subhuman. Okay they have been chastised from UEFA for their sectarian/racist behavior however recently there have been some improvements. Not all Rangers fans are right wing neo nazi fcukpigs and that's a FACT!
Read the post! The blogger - with intelligent control - does mention that he realises that these animals do not represent the mayority of fine Scots.
However, this is not the image we wish to fan out throughout the world.
By the way, excellent blog on Spanish Football, will make it a favourite.
How long will you permit that these one brain celled walking animals
be the worldwide image of the country & of your long valiant history &
culture?
SFS that is a very important question to ask and has been asked before for many years in most parts of Scotland. Yet nothing is ever done to stop them by the SFA or Scottish government.Only Uefa have punished them for incidents that also occurred in Spain.
As you can see from some of the replies to your blog, It is never their fault but they are always happy to blame the unfortunate opponent.
I'm appalled at the behaviour of these Rangers fans. Thankfully, I doubt if many of them are actually from Scotland. I've visited Catalunya every year for the last seven and they are a proud people, but also amongst the friendliest you could hope to meet.
This band of visiting fans were taking the piss. (as well as leaving it on every pavement). The Spanish police can't win, they use kid gloves and the locals protest, they go in heavy handed and the club protests.
No arrests doesn't equate to no bad behaviour. It's time they had their liberties curtailed, every time their club plays abroad.
it wasnt just the people of barcelona that had to put up with this.
know people flying to rome who were unfortunate to have rangers fans (their carers must have booked through internet) and cheaper to fly to barca via rome. Flying to such a holy city they sang vile songs about f**K the pope and having s*x with boys, so much so that on their return flight the pilot came on to say that the rangers fans were not allowed any alcohol and anyone singing would be arrested on arrival in glasgow.
Really are the lowest form of human beings.
pity we can only read about this in non scottish media outlets as the old "see no evil hear no evil" attitude prevalent in the scottish media for 100 years continues.
Rangers only do something about it when they will be penalised not because they think it is wrong.
What was the result of the internal investigation into official members of rangers party in san siro singing sectarian songs?
SCUM!
The San Siro incident is a very good example of Rangers as a clubs attitude, they put on a front about fighting back against the bigots, yet there in Milan with only official members, some 40 or 50 in an empty stadium could clearly be heard singing the full repertoire of pro loyalist death squads, pro-loyalist drug gangs and anti-catholic, anti-irish bile. The club was forced to comment because it was so obvious, they tell the media there will be an internal investigation and blatantly whitewash the whole unsavoury incident. The Club as well as their hardcore bigots are a blight on Scottish society.
Sad
I wondered when the Tims would get in...i was in Barcelona in 2004 with your lot as you stole from street artists,pissed against shop windows in mid afternoon with women and kids there and fought in pubs and nightclubs and at 1 point 3 of you kicked the shit out a nightclub bouncer...Celtic are the gypsies,tramps and theives..oh and siville calculator....80,000 now.
A litlle enlightenment there pal,my mates were in Seville and 1 was stabbed by a Celtic fan and had his mobile and watch stolen,my mates 2 brothers were robbed at knifepoint by 2 tims and during the whole "greatest fans in the world charade" countless had tickets,mobiles and items of clothing stolen by Celtic fans.My brothers mate had his trainers knicked off his feet by celtic fans...your the disgrace,an embarrassment and the unwashed.
Rangers football club have a minority idiot support but to say football fans pissing in the street and vomitting is the end of society is not only making you look like vindictive ignorant bigoted fools it also highlights the fact that Rangers fc are being victimized..It's amazing how Barca cops hace commended the behavious of 99% of the 25000 Rangers fans there but said it arrested over 50 Barca thugs hell bent of destruction and violence.
I'm stunned yet again Rangers football fans have attempted to destroy Scotlands reputation abroad. I'm fed up that bigot such as these can represent us, with their crude abuse of the pope.
Glasgow Rangers = Scotlands shame
found this blog through a website and felt the need to add my own comment on the behaviour of Rangers fans in Barcelona. I happened to be in Barcelona for a few days on business and have to say I was appalled by the way these "animals" conducted themselves.I tried to avoid them at all costs, but they were pretty plague like and seemed to be almost everywhere one went. I then had to endure a flight home to London on Tuesday night, on flight BA487 to Heathrow in the company of some of these subspecies who are disguised as human beings on a flight. Most of these creatures on board were singing songs, they were stomach churning to say the least, very very offensive and littered with obscene language, most have a gory fascination with the Pope. Being a Catholic I was deeply offended by this. They thought that maybe the attendants on the flight would be interested in their sexual advances, which were nothing short of pornographic descriptions. They were like cockroaches scurrying along the aisles on the flight home back and forth to the toilets after obviously having consumed their own body weight in alcohol, no monuments on BA flights for them to urinate on, thank goodness, how some managed to get on the plane is beyond me. The flight was delayed from landing, I was to assume because of the behaviour of certain passengers. So much so the Police boarded the plane upon landing and actually removed several of the more serious offenders of the singing and shameful behaviour on board, before other passengers were allowed to depart. In all my days of commuting to and from other countries that has to have been the worst flying experience ever. I have travelled before with football fans, including Celtic football supporters and in the whole it has been very good, even quite comical moments from some. Never have I travelled with a more offensive ignorant group of individuals who were very intimidating in their manner towards other passengers including women and children. I'll make sure to check in case Rangers and their hordes of filth are travelling before I share another flight abroad with these creatures who were absolutely revolting. They truly were shameful in my experience of them.
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Biggest spouting of pish ive ever read in my life. A lot of coincidences in there, "I happened to be in barcelona, I happened to be catholic, I happened to be on the same flight back, Out of 20000, there are about 7 ppl pictured in here, so unless you can show me a picture of all 20000 making complete erseholes out of them. Think before you start branding Rangers(and scots) Cavemen
I am so very sad that the good city of Barcelona had to endure these mindless, demented thugs who vomited over, urinated on and spoiled the streets of the city with drink-litter, violence/intimidation and what can only be described as vile war-chants.
These people are scum, they do not represent Scotland - please do not think that they do, they are an embarrassment, a disgrace and if Glasgow Rangers football club had one stitch of decency about them they would name, shame and publicly disown each and every one of this filthy band of orcs.
Disgusting. :(
Spanish Paper Tells Rangers Not To Come Back
The huns have been told never to come back to Barcelona by a Spanish Paper as you can read below .
This has left some huns in melt down and the paper goes on to say that rangers are boring and only can defend.
Their defenses are butchers; its midfield players, tuercebotas; and its forwards, closets. But, mainly, it would be preferable that the Rangers did not come back to Barcelona .
Full story below
PLEASE, DON'T EVER COME BACK AGAIN
Dear Rangers supporters- never come back to Barcelona again. And not because your players themselves aren’t a legitimate team. No, it’s not because of that- the Nou Camp frequently hosts teams who are lazy, boring, who only defend, who run and kick their opponents, and who shouldn’t be in elite competition. On top of this, Rangers merely defend, run at the opposition and play dirty. Their defenders are butchers, their midfielders, heavy-footed; and their strikers just stand there like the furniture.
But even apart from the footballing aspect, the best thing would be for Rangers never to return to Barcelona, because every time they do, they make a mess of the place. 35 years ago, you (the Rangers supporters) destroyed the seats at the Nou Camp. This time we have enjoyed no less than 48 hours of brawls, provocation, rackets, fights and common drunk women throughout the whole city, which you have fouled however you pleased.
Stay at home and vomit in your own living-room, urinate in your sitting-room corners, fight with your neighbours, the Celtic supporters (who deserve a prize just for putting up with you) and foul the streets of Glasgow instead. Don’t come back here again, because it is not a laughing matter. And, by extension, don’t play in the Champions’ League either. You are not at that level neither in a sporting nor human sense.
There are noisy groups of supporters who, although they drink vast amounts of beer, make friends at the same time. But you? Not you, because everywhere you go, you turn into a rubbish tip. You are undesirables. And so are those who fraudulently sell, or “rent out” their tickets. These people screw Barca over, because they trade their season tickets illegally. And in doing this they cause massive annoyance for other members of the club. A true Barcelona fan would not re-sell their ticket for the match. If you are not going to the match, give it to a family member, or you could even use the 'Seient Lliure' service (an automated ticket service used by some Spanish clubs including Barcelona).
From now on, the responsibility lies with UEFA and the club itself to ensure who the ticket is sold to. The best thing for all of us would be that you as a supporter, in a moment of lucidity, decide not to travel if you do not have tickets. As that is never going to happen, those who sell the tickets illegally must be brought to justice. But the best thing would be if we never had to play Rangers again.
(Printed in El Mundo, 8/11/2007)
Translated by iamlarsson
Mountain out of molehills I Feel. As a complete neutrul ( I am a man utd fan born in england although my mother is Irish) I think this seems a bit ridiculous. I was working in Barcelona last week in the Ibermapei offices on plaza Catalunya & thought the Rangers fans were harmless. Speaking to a few of the fans many of them had spent well over £500 to get to the city so you can't blame them for having a good time. Can you honestly tell me that if 20,000 fans of any other British team had gone over the same wouldn't have happened? Was staying in a hotel with a few highland rangers fans who were excellent (Very generous with the drinks). They were complaining that their fans have a bad name & are victimised abroad. I'm starting to think they might have a point. Scots abroad getting drunk, Singing & peeing in the street. Unexpected? I don't think so.
I lived in Barcelona for a couple of years and to be honest didn't expect them to get much of a welcome. For a start last time rangers played at camp nou fans clashed with police after rangers won the Cup winners cup. Jubilant scottish football fans & Fascist police don't mix too well.
Other than that there are hundreds of Irish pubs (& not one scottish pub.) Many of which are IRA pubs ie. Micheal Collins. The nou camp museum has photos of celtic fans & Sells Celtic strips. Also keeping in mind the fact that a minority of Rangers fans were singing anti catholic songs at Villareal they were never going to be welcome. Can you honestly say that there would be as much of a fuss with another team? I don't think so.
Police in Italy have just killed a football fan. Can you really say that Rangers fans are as bad as Italian, Turkish or English fans just because they got drunk & had a sing song?
Read the comments from all. Question, what in the hell are you doing in a foreign city if you dont have a ticket to see your team? Amazes me.
Lots of poor arguements here, its really simple... act if it was your home...would you vomit , piss, fight , act as a sub life form in your home? End of arguement . Think for christ sake!
We came we saw we got mugged.
Barcelona home of the pickpocket. But thats life.
REMEMBER not ONE ARREST from the rangers support!
Police very good with fans and knew how to police 20,000 fans successfully.Well done.
So sados get off your computers you nerds and actually go out and enjoy yourself bunch of sad gets with no life
How the fuck is anyone from Glasgow supposed to know who the guy in the statue is?
As for civillised, I ended up next to a load of Barca fans who indulged in monkey chants and threw coins at us all night.
I was glad all the pickpockets got jumped. Here's hoping they won't do it again.
No toilets, bins or burger vans were provided for us in the square, unlike when Spanish clubs come to Glasgow.
Rangers fans are the most loyal in the world and will go anywhere in the hope of getting a ticket. The Spanish are strangely snobby and look down on British Protestants in particular.
If small clubs like Barca can't provide for a REAL support, then on their heads be it.
This is hilarious! I'm an irishman who lived in glasgow for 4 years whilst at uni. I'm a celtic fan so can't say i've got much time for Rangers. However, It pains me to say that while I was in glasgow I made lots of friends who were huns. Sorry Rangers fans! Glasgow is a strange place both teams have their share of eejits but the majority on both side are decent enough. To be honest this article is harsh. It just sounds like an average saturday night in glasgow. It will be the same on Saturday when Scotland play Italy. It's just part of Scottish & Irish culture. Don't think the Spanish should have a go at Rangers. All the best, A Friendly Bhoy!
Due to work and other reasons my partner and I have not had a holiday in 3 years. We decided to book 5 days in Barcelona ignorant of the fact that there was a European match with Rangers slap bang in the middle of our break.
I've read various news items, most praising the behaviour of the visiting fans. We had an apartment just of the famous Ramblas. Before last week I had no opinion on Glaswegians, thought I like the Scottish (being Welsh myself) and had no opinion on Rangers FC. I have a few words to describe the fans we witnessed and unfortunately had to put up with ... SCUM, ANIMALS, SELFISH, THE LOWEST DREGS OF SOCIETY ... I could go on and on.
In our apartment we had 2 sleepless nights because of noise, quarrelling, fighting, stamping feet above us and constant foul language. EVERY(!) Scot was a foul mouthed, loud, aggressive, pissed up animal whether it was female, a 17 year old lad or a 60 something man.
My partner had lewd comments made to her, had to witness Scots flashing her and pissing in the street and every Scottish sentence has the word 'fuck' in it which I never realised before.
The Rangers press officer thinks few arrests for violence and no major fights equals good behaviour. This is not true. Good behaviour equals respect for other people, respect for another city and overall manners. Glasgow football fans have none of these. Which fortunately will not affect me again but did ruin the latter part of our had earned holiday.
Also, it gives a poor representation for Scotland in general, which is a shame as I know in reality that it is football fans that are generally scum and not Glaswegians! However, I do not wish to hear another Glaswegian accent for a very long time!!
i was in the city and stadium and have to say that i only saw one small fight between two rangers fans in the square that was split up by other rangers fans. i also commend the police for there friendly response that i recieved and also loads of locals that where very open and welcoming. although some of the things others have written may be ture to some degree. i know first hand that most rangers fans booed the fans abusing the pope..etc.
i loved the people and the city and will be back soon. i took in the cultural enjoyed the restaurants and the buildings and never pissed on anything in public. i know for a fact most fans where of similar minds.
There seems to be a lot of anonymous quotes on here from apparent "neutrals". It all seems a bit suspicious to me. For a start how did so many people find this obscure page? I suspect the same way I did on the scottish football forum on the BBC website. I think there are a lot of people on the wind up either trying to further damage the reputation of rangers or trying to back them up.
Personally not being in BCN i can't comment either way. However it is embaressing as a rangers fan to hear this kind of thing because I love the team & it's quite hurtful to hear your fellow gers fans branded as animals. I like to think of myself as quite an open minded, decent guy & know loads of rangers and celtic fans that are the same. But what people have to realise is that Glasgow has a minority of scumbags on both sides of the divide.
To the residents of Barcelona I feel sorry that they feel this way but it is a problem in Scotland in general. Maybe something good will come out of this. If Barcelona know how many opposition fans are traveling they can communicate with the opposition team and arrange a designated fanzone with proper facilities away from the centre. To be honest so many people traveled over to Barcelona because they wanted to visit a beautiful city & see their team play the best team in Europe. I think the fans who were causing trouble were being ignorant rather than malicious. I am confident that there were a lot of decent gers fans behaving themselves & having a good time but I know that there would have been the scum that associate themselves with the club. You people really are deluded if you think Celtic would have been any different and please don't go on about Seville. I know there were fans causing trouble over there but the point is that most of them behaved themselves.
Love your blog mate, finally see an english written page on Spanish Football... will be back , many a time.
My wife works in a bank call centre and the worst place in the world for pickpockets is Barcelona. I myself am a taxi driver in Glasgow and I can assure you that the Tartan Army will create as much mess and will be pissing all over the place this saturday before and after the Italy game. As for the Celtic fans being the greatest I know for a fact that that is the biggest myth of all time.
who cares what a bunch of filthy diegos think about us , we are British and we rule the world unlike the manky catalans who do what the Spanish tell them, Rule Britannia,No Surrender
The comment from lennymurphy says it all really!!
I'm Scottish by choice and british by force.
As for the pickpockets in barcelona, this has been a problem in Spain for a long time, I can remember it happening frequently in Holiday resorts as far back as the 70's. In answer to that I can also remember muggings in Glasgow, Edinburgh, London and even Blackpool. So this happens everywhere.
In a previous comment a rangers fan said he heard other rangers fans booing fellow fans for abusing the Pope. Now that's absolute nonsense. I have never heard any booing in ibrox when the Pope has been verbally abused, so why would rangers fans take a moral stand in Barcelona. So I think we can wright that off as a blatant lie.
There is also a pic doing the rounds of rangers fans burning a Celtic top and making Nazi salutes in Barcelona, why would they do that? They are in Barcelona to play one of the best teams in the world, what do Celtic have to do with this game or nazi's for that matter. You try to crawl from beneath Celtic's shadow and are dragged back in by your own scummy fans.
I was in Seville for the UEFA cup final, I never at anytime saw a rangers top being burned, probably because you were'nt important enough to be given a thought. I never saw any fights, anyone urinating in a main street or Spannish women being chastised, I can't say it didn't happen but it wasn't prevelant enough to be even noticeable.
You reap what you sew, rangers fans are not wanted anywhere, wheras Celtic fans are welcomed the world over. Do you think this is just coincedence, do rangers fans really think they are not liked for no reason, do they really think that they are not wanted anywhere because of their footballing skills. Your fans are a disgrace, a blemish on Scottish society.
You say you are british, that's good because the Scots don't want you.
Now fuck off over the border and allow us to clean up Scotland, we may have to ask barcelona for advice on how to sanitise our City of Glasgow after you've left.
Another chapter in the glorious history of Rangers Football Club abroad!
I'm a Glaswegian, Protestant Rangers fan. I guess I'm a perfect candidate for the propoganda being spouted here.
The above statement rings true for all Celtic fans and Catalans doesn't it? Surely? Wrong!
I happen to know several Celtic fans and have 2 Spanish friends, one who was raised near Camp Nou, and all agree that we're just getting a bad hype.
The truth is, every country and every football club has it's good and bad supporters. The fact that we get so much bad hype from trivial issues such as urinating in public is completely beyond my comprehension.
Growing up 2 minutes walk away from the Rangers stadium from 1991-1998 I witnessed the events at every Rangers game, in particular those against Celtic. And I have to say, I saw very little of this behaviour from either side.
The majority of bad behaviour were the songs they sang, which as I beleive is now frowned upon by 99% of Rangers supporters.
I do firmly beleive that Rangers are the victims of a worldwide hate campaign. Sure some of our supporters should be banned from games or penalized in some form. But I beleive the same holds true for all fans who behave in such a manner.
The fact that all those Rangers fans were out in the streets and the most that can be said about them is urinating on a statue and one fight, between it's own fans, as the basis fuelling this blog is, to me, a clear indication that Rangers fans are always going to get a bad rep for miniscule grievances.
If people are always going to vilify us and write this kind of article about us, so be it. I for one will take it in my stride and it will push me to be both a better person and a fan at away games.
As for the article posted in a Spanish paper with regards to our team being "boring and can only defend".... The last time I checked defense was a credible part of football. If you don't like it, I'm afraid that's your gripe.
Stop the ignorance, get to know one another. We're all the same, despite our many differences. Once people stop reaching for the sword and actually speak without slander and without resorting to this kind of crap we could all enjoy the wonderfull sport that is Football. The way it's meant to be enjoyed.
Kind Regards, Nemor.
Which d*ckhead said not one arrest from the wanjers suppot?
And RFC are still in denial.... heads in the sand as usual
I cannot believe there are peepil on here trying to defend these animals and their actions
I too was in Barcelona in 2004 and saw none of the trouble described by the earlier rangers fan.
C'mon people, u all need 2 get a grip of urselfs!whats happened has happened it is disappointing and am sure the people pictured above r ashamed/regretting their behave after sobering up, as people have said evry1 makes mistakes!
I was in Barcelona 4 the game lat Wed nyt n i have 2 say i saw no trouble from rangers supports that would be classed as out of order, but what i did see should make the Barcelona fans disgraced of their own supporters.
A group of Barca fans behind 1 of the goals were more interested in provoking the travelling support, throwing drinks, coins, anything they had at the small crowd of rangers fans sitting among them. The riot police did not once stop their behaviour but instead removed rangers fans from the game (that had not done anything)that had been pickd out by the home support...what kind of club is this that allows their holligan fans, not interested in a football game, causing trouble the right to tell the authorities who they want in their stadium. This does not seem like welcoming fans for visiting support. At 1 stage a 7 year old boy was removed from the game, 7!he had nopt done anythng wrong apart from him and his parents being unfortunate enough 2 sit behind such appaling fans!
So before u all continue to point the finger of blame at rangers and their supporters take a look a bit more closer to home.
Rangers fans were not out there 2 cause any trouble, this was a huge game 4 the rangers support the 1st chance to play such a massive club who knows when that chance may come about agen, fans were jst their 2 soak up the amazing atmosphere created in the city and 2 support their team.
As for drinkning in the street, evry1 should have known thts wt scottish supporters do from previous games such as villarreal, osasuna, even celtic in seville, its jst what happens!Me and my party had been in a pub along with other supporters ALL day on Wed 7th Nov & it had 2 shut as they ran out of drink. rather than giving fans a place 2 go they chucked evry1 out leaving fans no option but 2 stand on the street and drink. So again it comes down to the city not really being prepared for such a large travvelling support. Not suprising when their own support is so poor
I feel sorry for the locals and tourists with an army of idiots making a European city basically a no go area for a number of nights!
Glasgow Rangers football club should be held accountable in some way. No appology even?!
Nemor, there is no need to mention religion as religion has little to do with this incident, and the little that came up was sectarian singing with regards to the pope.
I will agree with you that not all rangers fans are like this but they are just as guilty!!! Their guilt lies in their neglect in throwing the bile of humanity to the lions. The good fans that you mention IF they are in the majority should have nothing to fear by pointing out the scum to ibrox officials and demanding that they are dealt with appropriately.
Celtic fans are determined to uphold the good name of their club and will frequently chastise a fan who tries to undermine this. So when your next at ibrox and you hear the sectarian chants, go to an official and demand their expulsion from the ground. It has to start somewhere so why not with you.
You say that rangers fans are going to get a bad rep, let me enlighten you, when no one likes you there is normally a reason. You can't say that you got bad rep in Barcelona because of football rivalry because to Barcelona you aren't even a spec on the football map, you can't say it's religion because teams from all religions take fans to Barcelona without this kind of trouble. You can't say it's because your Scottish because Celtic have played there many times and have made friends.
So I'll let you into the worst kept secret in the world, it's because the majority of your fans are bigoted scum that can't behave themselves.
As for playing defenceive football, in itself there is nothing wrong with it, but when your 2-0 down and being overun, you have to say the tactics are wrong and do your upmost to change it.
The quicker you all realise that when you sing "we arra peepul" everyone else is thinking "Aye, the stupid fucking people".
"We're all the same, despite our many differences."
What a classic line from the anonymous poster at 3.44pm.
I actually stated that people who commit to this type of behaviour should be reprimanded "Bhoy". So don't disillusion yourself.
I'm also not saying we have a bad rep for no reason. These people are the reason, and they ARE in the minority, whether you, as a Celtic fan, can beleive that or not is your problem.
The point I'm trying to make is that all over the world, numerous football club supporters fight and sing songs that are deemed unacceptable by other clubs, and very rarely are they in the spotlight.
I know it's going to sound like "We're the victim" but you must understand, this is how our supporters feel. I know that's what some of you want me to say, and whats more, it's what your goal is.
You've reached it, time to put everything else behind you and enjoy the sport for what it is and not for how you support it.
Also, on a final note. Alot of you are merely baiting and slandering Rangers supporters blindly, instead of making informed and educated opinions of your own.
I'm not disillusioned at all Nemur!! The point I was making is that it is rangers fans such as yourself that must ensure that they are reprimanded.
So at the next rangers game that is televised live i shall watch for you with a scum fan over each shoulder walking down the ibrox steps to throw them to the security staff and demand they are dealt with!!
Your not the victim, the people of Barcelona are the victims, and anyone else that has to put up with your (rangers fans in general)bile.
Yes and I suppose the Barcelona Ultras are to be commended on abusing women and children by pelting them with objects.
If your theology rings true, doesn't that make all Barcelona fans thugs and morons?
It's truly wonderful to see your responses Bhoy. You start off with an almost positive response, by stating that fans like myself should boo and see that the bad fans are reprimanded.
Beleive it or not, the majority of Gers supporters do not link themselves with such people and with the 2 Gers that were fighting, and those singing banned songs WERE booed and generally vilified.
Then you go off on one as usual by stating that Rangers fans in general are like this.
As usual you prove my point, that those that respond to this against the Gers fans are here only to mock, slander and victimise.
I'm surprised to see that you also heard this booing of sectarian songs, I'm even more surprised i haven't heard you booing at ibrox then!
I will try to post a pic, hopefully it works, I'll be interested to read your response, as you can plainly see there are a lot more than a few pictured.
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I don't mock, slander or victimize. I say it as it is!!
You say you are a true rangers fan, and deplore the antics of the FEW!! Then show it at your next home game, stamp this filth out and start the long road to recovery for your team. celtic fans did it, are you saying rangers fans are incabable of doing the same.
try this!!
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please can we stop rangers fans travelling abroad,they are nothing but an embaresment to scotland its bad enough having english supporters tarnishing the reputation of football fans around the world but these animals are an embaresment to the human race WHY nazi salutes your supposed to be proud of being british WHY not stay sober enough to see your team get hammered in the Nou camp,stay at the govan circus and enjoy your sectarian roots
For F*ck sake! We don't do nazi salutes. We are a very proud british club. Britain lost miliions of soldiers during the world wars. Stop trying to suggest hthis to people who don't know about scottish football. You know fine well that it is the red hand of Ulster, a political statement (Even though I don't do it myself). You lot are oppurtunists that try & tarnish the reputation of glasgow rangers. I hate the whole bigotry thing. This post is very black and white suggesting that rangers fans are drunken idiots and celtic are angels. Most people that live in this country are aware this is not true. You're being ignorant of a problem that has been going on in Scottish society for over a hundred years. Grow up!
THURSDAY - There was no trouble in Barcelona.
FRIDAY - OK, there was some trouble, but not much.
SATURDAY - OK, there was trouble but that's because there were no toilets
SUNDAY - OK, we were a disgrace, but what about Sellik ?
MONDAY - I blame Catholic schools.
The debate is getting off the track guys...
Extract from Newcastle Fanzine Editors Article
Celtic should not be invited back to Newcastle and it saddens me deeply
to say it. Not for the first time has their support visted our city and
generated sheer disgust at their behaviour...........there is a large
section of Celtic's support in Newcastle who behave in a thoroughly
obnoxious manner.......
..........they do bring some of the detrius of Scotland with them and
despite the money generated for Newcastle United, their visits have to
be put to an end. A good 30% of their following simply don't know how to
behave and see these visits south as an opportunity to behave completely
without a lack of regard, respect for our city and without
dignity.........
Around the city, Celtic fans left a trail of rubbish - as any
self-respecting Geordie Mam would ask - I wonder what their homes are
like - and as I made my way up Blackett St queues of absolutely stotting
Celtic fans urinated in the streets in full view of women and children
and appeared to take a delicious pride in their bone-headed behaviour.
Its not the vulgar displays of their Roman Catholicism - huge crucifixes
prominently displayed by some who I'd guess haven't found their way into
a Church for many a year - that's a matter for them, though it cheapens
an ancient religion in a way none of their detractors could ever do. Not
so much Catholic kitsch but bling. Its not even the renditions of
irrelevant Rebel Songs but it is the constant abuse of Alan Shearer,
which was meant to be provocative but were largely blanked by supporters
inside SJP bemused by their hostility to a man who has no history with
them...........shameful that they have to abuse a player who didn't play
against them in a proper fixture..........
But most seriously the hail of bottles and glasses hurled towards St.
Andrew's St. from Gallowgate, under the Chinese arch next to the
Tyneside Irish Centre (who rumour tells me ironically weren't keen on
being swamped by support from Scotland) by Celtic fans was criminally
dangerous, completely indiscriminate and should end the invitations to
Celtic Football Club to visit SJP. I saw bottles narrowly missing
families and they were being thrown with wreckless intensity. Remember
this was a game to which U-11s were encouraged with free admission.
Its truly sad when a fanzine feels the need to call for a football club
to be banned from our city because large numbers of their supporters
can't conduct themselves acceptably.
Ha!Ha! Fair enough complaining about gers fans. Catalan culture is very different to that of glasgow culture so you can understand them getting upset. However for Newcastle a city very similair to Glasgow to come out with this just shows how bad the jungle jims are. It's about time that people stopped making Rangers the scapegoats for social problems that have existed in Scotland & Ireland for well over 100 years.
Yawn! Being from a town in the highlands I used to get abuse for being a glory hunter because I followed Rangers. After a trophyless 2 years & having put up with Garbage like this article I think I can say I'm a true Rangers fan. They are a great team and I won't hear otherwise. For any non scot that is reading these posts just ask a supporter of a non old firm team what they think of Celtic. You might be surprised to find that their reaction would certainly not be that they are the greatest fans in the world. Quite the opposite.
"Its not the vulgar displays of their Roman Catholicism - huge crucifixes
prominently displayed"
That comment alone gives you an insight into the writers integrity!
Why don't we ask an impartial spanish fan to show us some extracts from their fanzines, we can start with Barcelona then go on to Villareal and Valencia, we could maybe finish off with a quote from the Mayor of Seville.
Note to the Huns, "must try harder".
Average conversation in Scotland:
Celtic fan:You're a bigot.
Rangers fan: No you're a bigot.
Celtic fan: You're scum.
Rangers fan: No you're scum.
and so it goes on.
Reality: Celtic. Decent team MINORITY of scumbags that sing pro IRA songs & sing fuck the queen and various other anti british/protestant songs.
Rangers. Decent team MINORITY of scumbags that sing pro Orange songs as well as anti Catholic songs.
As a Caley thistle fan I have no problem with either however it does seem unusual that rangers have such a bad reputation abroad.
That is all!
3inarow said…
it wasnt just the people of barcelona that had to put up with this.
know people flying to rome who were unfortunate to have rangers fans (their carers must have booked through internet) and cheaper to fly to barca via rome. Flying to such a holy city they sang vile songs about f**K the pope and having s*x with boys, so much so that on their return flight the pilot came on to say that the rangers fans were not allowed any alcohol and anyone singing would be arrested on arrival in glasgow.
Really are the lowest form of human beings.
pity we can only read about this in non scottish media outlets as the old "see no evil hear no evil" attitude prevalent in the scottish media for 100 years continues.
Rangers only do something about it when they will be penalised not because they think it is wrong.
What was the result of the internal investigation into official members of rangers party in san siro singing sectarian songs?
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This is completely unbiased! £ in a row? That wouldn't be the 3 in a row that celtic are planning on winning this year?
You sir are a moron!
Should have guessed that as soon as someone from Scotland got hold of this article it would just be full of Celtic/Rangers fans bitching with each other.
Glasgow will be EXACTLY the same when Scotland play Italy this weekend. Is it acceptable? No, but it is a Scottish mentality rather than a Rangers one.
But really when you look at what has been happening in Italy it does just make this article & associated posts look very petty.
Scots are wankers and it's about time the rest of the world new this. You moan about wanting to be independant yet your MP's get to vote on English matters and you get more money than us too.
You're too biggest teams don't even want to be scottish. One wants to be Irish & one wants to be English.
I'm a man utd fan & I remember when Celtic fans were in Manchester last year. They are animals. They were singing pro IRA songs ten years after there was an IRA bombing in a Manchester shopping centre. Talk about disrespectful.
We played Rangers a couple of years before that and they weren't as bad but very noisy & very drunk. Scotland always cause mayhem when they come to London. Why don't they Rebuild Hadrians wall.
In reply to this poster:
At 8:52 PM, Anonymous said…
Due to work and other reasons my partner and I have not had a holiday in 3 years. We decided to book 5 days in Barcelona ignorant of the fact that there was a European match with Rangers slap bang in the middle of our break. . .
Firstly I would like to commiserate with you regarding the unfortunate timing of a holiday: I'm sure it has happened to most of us, having a holiday spoiled by bad luck meaning that you find yourself stuck with another group or event that has ruined what you wanted to get from the holiday. I've certainly suffered through sleepless and unpleasant nights in hotels because of morons in other rooms.
The behaviour that is being talked about is unacceptable, loutish and uncouth but why the surprise? The drinking, littering, pissing and flashing is pretty standard behavior from any British football team's supporters (club or national)when they venture abroad, whether they play in blue, green, red or white. Anyone reacting with mock outrage and suggesting otherwise is kidding themselves. Venture into any British high street or area around bars and clubs in the wee small hours and you will see exactly the same thing on a smaller scale, but without the front of a sporting event. We have had a similar situation this year here in Ottawa when decent people were outraged at people urinating on the National War Memorial after the official Canada Day celebrations on parliament hill.
"SCUM, ANIMALS, SELFISH, THE LOWEST DREGS OF SOCIETY" is your phrase. The behaviour is moronic and completely unnacceptable, but to try to claim it is unique to or universal in the supporters of one football team is absurd.
Oh and and for the idiot who posted this:
At 6:29 PM, Anonymous said…
How the fuck is anyone from Glasgow supposed to know who the guy in the statue is?
The fact that they took the time and money to erect a a huge statue of the person in the middle of their main square should give you a clue that this person is (or was) important to them!
I think you can't blame the rangers fans alone. I think the likes of Easyjet & Ryanair have to take some of the blame. If it wasn't for low cost airlines it would have filtered out the scumbags & Decent supporters (like myself) who ACTUALLY HAD a ticket for the game would have gone over & been good ambassadors for club and country.
I hate the reputation we have abroad. The majority of gers fans are good people & it's a frustrating minority that ruin it for us.
At 10:01 PM, boldyin said…
Just to point out this; this problem is with Rangers fans not Scots or Glaswegians(half the rangers support wear england tops to rangers games: mugs). Celtic the other team from Glasgow travel the world and are accepted everywhere even winning awards from uefa for fans conduct following there run in the uefa cup, these nuts get in trouble everywhere and are banned from travelling to some citys in England. The problem is that rangers are a bigoted fascist club with no real idea of who they are or what they stand for. sad really
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You are ridiculous. For a start a very,very,very small percentage of Rangers fans wear England strips. I regularly visit Ibrox & It's not a common site these days. I also think that thousands of drunk football fans singing & Peeing in the street is quite an accurate representation of Glasgow.If Rangers are a bigoted right wing group surely that makes Celtic an anti british, Protestant hating, pro terrorist club. Also "they don't know who they are" you're all plastic paddy's. You'd all rather be Irish than Scottish. You're an embaressment. As Far as being loved wherever you go. Look at a couple of the previous posts & you'll realise this is not the case.
No doubt there was was some rowdy behaviour but not a single Rangers fan was arrested and the Barcelona police chief said he was very satisfied with the behaviour of the Gers support. Some bitter Celtic fans are determined to try to demonise Rangers fans with absurd claims such as Gers supporters are banned from various English cities - while others bandy around the sectarian insult "Huns".
regarding all the crap spouted about the glorious blue army , we took a record number of fan to an away game in the sectional group games , more than the so called greastest fans in the world lol,let me remind u of some incedents involving the great unwashed , 1 made replay austria ven after player hit by missile , 2 referee dallas head split by misslie , ricksen hit by missile , A.C. KEEPER ASSUALTED , trouble at friendly with chelsea , so get it right up yez
why are celtic fans making articles and posting comments on a barcelona - rangers match? no matter what happened in barca (the worst of which being the urinating in the street, which cant be helped without toilets and the dispicable behaviour of the barcelona ultra's in the camp nou)it has nothing to do with you! it just goes to show how paranoid use lot are that at any chance use get use try to tarnish the name of Glasgow Rangers Football Club, we have news for you! NO ONE LIKES US, WE DONT CARE!
reading this made me feel sick, that scottish supporters cant seem to behave themselves when abroad.
'How the fuck is anyone from Glasgow supposed to know who the guy in the statue is?'
its not coincidence that celtics travelling support have a better reputation than rangers. albiet marginaly. how hard is it not to piss on a monument ffs?
What a sad, bitter way to vent your frustrations towards a team and their support.
Reports from officials and Police Chief suggested that considering the amount of travelling fans (20000 - The biggest away support ever in the Champions League Groups) there was very little trouble.
I don't doubt that there was trouble, just like any other team's fans cause trouble. But, I would much rather take the word of officials than the word of some bitters Celtic Fans who care more about the downfall of Rangers than the success of their own club.
No, I am not a fascist or bigot and I'll have you know, my mother is a Catholic.
Puts your arguements out the window, doesn't it?
WATP.
Me and my mate had a fantastic time in Barcelona- great food, great party by the Rangers fans, made lots of friends over the 3 days (mainly German, Dutch, Swedish and Australian- not many Catalans unfortunately- found them a bit standoffish). The game was poor, but the experience in the Nou Camp overall was unforgettable. The Rangers fans were amazing. Loved the Miro museum and the Mies Pavillion- Park Guell and Sagrada Familia. Picasso museum isn't a patch on the Paris one though. I'm sorry some Barcelona people are so po-faced about the Rangers fans' boisterousness, I had thought they had a bit more oomf. Still, the tourists loved the spectacle. Forca Barca.
Man, it was a party. Everybody enjoyed themselves, some guys had a bit too much. There was a mess after it. Somebody had to clean it up. That's what happens at parties. Sounds like you need to experience one, though I suspect you'd be too busy tip-toe-ing around everyone with an ashtray to enjoy it.
No axe to grind, indifferent about who's who in Scottish football, Rangers or Celtic? Couldn't care less. We're from Newcastle, so understand that boys will be boys and sometimes they'll get full of themselves while away from home, it all seems par for the course and football supporters are often an unloved tribe. These are our experiences:
We had a week's holiday booked in a place called Calella, an hour from Barcelona by train, from Monday to Monday. Rangers played on Wednesday. Monday morning at Newcastle airport we were a bit baffled by the sounds of Saturday night, then the old grey matter remembered the Barca-Gers fixture but couldn't believe there were guys getting tanked up first thing on a Monday morning because of it. We were flying to Girona and suffice to say the plane was full of Rangers fans in various states of inebriation, humour and dishevelment. One guy seemed highly perplexed and agitated that the stewardesses wouldn't move for him to use the toilet at the back of the plane despite their pointing out to him that there was an equally serviceable toilet at the front of the plane, I wouldn't have wanted to be the wrong side of him when he'd had a skinfull. They sang lustily and passionately and we knew by the time we landed that the pope was not to their liking, catholics and themselves did not see eye to eye, and that they followed Rangers. We landed and they all jumped up and down singing a "bouncy bouncy" song. These chaps and their lasses had a song for every occasion and a fruity turn of phrase for every sentence. The only problem we found was that they never gave it a rest, they carried on like a bunch of demented adolescents with ADHD. Even that can be put down to high spirits but they followed us to our hotel, an hour outside Barcelona, they camped in the rooms either side and above us. They occupied the hotel bar, and still they kept singing about the bleeding pope, bleeding catholics, bleeding Spaniards and bleeding anything that displeased the mob. When they stopped singing, they bawled at the top of their voices all through the night, 'fucking this' and 'fucking that' and everyone was their 'pal'. The locals looked on bemused, Scots who were not part of the Rangers beano apologized to us for the Rangers fans and hoped we'd not tar all Scots with the same brush, we don't incidentally, saying that they knew we'd go home and report our experiences to others. They bickered incessantly among themselves until the early hours - 7.30 on Tuesday morning - and generally made a nuisance of themselves. I personally did not see trouble outside of the hotel but allegedly there were fights and stabbings which left the locals thoroughly underwhelmed by all the British visitors to their town, ourselves included. Remember these guys travel with Union Jacks draped over their shoulders, hanging from their hotel balconies and draped strategically around whichever bars or cafes they decided to 'occupy'. We moved to a different hotel, as sleep was simply not an option. Not all the Rangers fans were out of control, but I saw no evidence of booing or restraint when sectarian hymns were sung and the general impression these folks gave was hostile, belligerent and with a simmering undercurrent of violence.
I've read some of the banter on this thread and you know, these weren't kids, they were adults who should've behaved more responsibly. No one forced them to pee in public, expose themselves and be generally offensive. It's who they are and what they are. This wasn't the behaviour of all Rangers fans but a very significant proportion of them. They have brought a degree of dishonour to themselves, which is irrelevant - like they give two f***s - but also to their city, their country and have only succeeded in reinforcing and confirming the kind of stereotypes that I should imagine responsible Weegies shake their heads in despair at.
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that these guys need to get their heads out of the 1970s and smell the coffee, the world's moved on whether they want to go with it or not. There are ways to follow your team, demonstrate your support and have a good time without attracting the contempt of everyone unfortunate enough to run into you.
I've already posted a comment on here (8.52pm Due to work and other reasons). I wanted to express my disgust at some of the experiences my partner and I had suffered whilst visiting Barcelona due to the Rangers' fans and Google gave me this site. I've got to agree with Lee Baldwin just above me and say my experiences were very similar.
Also, firstly, on the Ramblas where most of the Rangers antics took place there are ample toilet facilities ... I should know, with my weak bladder and and after several pints, I used them often last week ... on either side and on every branching street there are bars, fast food places, etc., that all have toilet facilities open to anyone that wishes to use them! It was simply a fact that the football fans found it easier to piss where they stood than make the effort to walk 50 yards!!
Similar to Lee Baldwin I had Ranger's fans above me and to the side in the apartment I was staying. We were also kept up all night until 7:00am by the fans above us ... must have been on the same morning flight ... and the fans to the side of us (arguing with prostitutes about money just outside our door at 3:00am was a classic) were not much better only for the the fact that they did go to bed at some stage.
The real sad thing about the experience was that every, not some, not 80%, but every(!), Rangers' fan seemed to be an aggressive, angry, nasty, pissed up, loud, foul mouthed yob ... it doesn't give me any pleasure saying that because I'm Welsh and I've had many a good time in Scotland and many a great welcome ... but it's simply a fact and it was true! Why such aggression and loutish behaviour? Is it a football thing? My holiday was ruined and more importantly to me my partner's holiday was ruined.
Did anyone else witness the playing of the flute and marching in the middle of the Ramblas at 12am on the Wednesday night? Grow up, it's pathetic!!!
Most pathetic part ... my partner being given some dirty suggestive remarks by a foul mouthed 60 year old Glaswegian on our way back to our apartment ... this 5foot 4inch prat was too pissed up to even notice I was there. Funniest part(?) ... John Toshack (Wales manager) was also on our delayed flight home to Cardiff ... and even he was being bothered by an annoying Rangers fan whilst waiting in the departure lounge (Yes! They were even on the flight back to Cardiff)
At the end of the day Rangers fans have let themselves down in a big way. I cannot be the only one that now holds such a low opinion of them. I'm just glad that there is a few hundred miles between me and the 'low life' that I had to live amongst for a few days last week!
To Lee, Leigh and all the Spanish people who had to endure this obvious rabble.
As a Scot and obviously not a rangers fan, I am saddened that no one has thought to apologise for the rangers fans behaviour, so I feel compelled to extend my countries sincere apologies and beg that you do not think Scotland and it's people condone the way you have been treated.
The reason the rangers fans have not moved on from the 70's is quite simple, they believe themselves in someway superior, they are protected by the scottish media who will not report their shortcomings and the SFA who can see them do no wrong. The problem being their followers are in positions of authority in both these establishments. In fact to this day the only media reports printed show the rangers fans in Barcelona as being upstanding pillars of the community and great ambassadors for our country. As for the SFA, nothing, not even a whimper.
i'd like to thank rangers supporters for not letting the club down on our recent trip to barcelona. 25000 supporters travelled to barca and with not one major incident reported or one arrest made i think thats a great achievement that Glasgow Rangers & Scottish people (who i expect more of the same from on Saturday) should be proud of! i suppose you will always get mindless idiots who try to tarnish our name no matter what the situation, which seems ridiculous considering the spanish police praised our behaviour, but i suppose all you celtic fans no more about our behaviour in barca than the barca police!
to bhoy just 2 above me!
sounding awfuly paranoid there mate!
What a lot of nonsense. I was in Barcelona and the behaviour of Rangers fans was nothing like what is being printed.
From discussions with my Celtic supporting friends and members of the Tartan Army, I am fully aware that each of the accusations thrown at Rangers supporters applies equally to the Celtic supporters and those who follow Scotland, with the exception of the inappropriate songs. No one can defend that, but the rest of the behaviour was nothing out of the ordinary.
Get a life and stop being so petty.
At 1:29 PM, Anonymous said…
to bhoy just 2 above me!
sounding awfuly paranoid there mate!
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No that would be 3 (pts) above you.
Paranoid? Not at all, don't you find it strange that the spanish papers run stories about it, the british consulate in Barcelona felt compelled to make a statement about it and the Scottish press and SFA play the 3 wise monkeys act.
Look out behind you!!!! lol
apparently my comment about the flight to Rome is biased as i am a celtic supporter?
IT is a matter of fact, contact the Airline, speak to the other passengers on board, believe me it happened, or have all these stories been made up because, as someone said, there is a "worldwide" hate campaign against rangers.
Paranoid much?
Spanish guy posts about trouble in barcelona - the rangers response? Celtic fans were bad in Newcastle!!!
Couldnt make it up.
no bhoy u will find it was 2!
what i find amazing is there was no trouble (confirmed by police and the fact there was no incident mentioned or not one arrest made from 25000 travelling fans) yet we are having this discussion, thats what i find strange! i also find the fact that you are even commenting on this topic strange, as it has nothing to do with your team?
can someone please tell me what was so wrong with the actions of the rangers fans in barcelona? i have travelled many a time with the tartan army and saw no difference in behaviour from the rangers supporters on my first trip away with them, apart from some sectarian singing which wasnt the case in the ground, just chanted outside by some idiots! the tartan army are praised worldwide yet Rangers fans are scrutinized, where is the justice in that?
Not 1 single arrest out of 20,000 fans, thats amazing, the rangers fans should be praised I cant think of any fans in that number not having 1 arrest.
Drinking is not a crime they have understand tthe british drinking culture this happens all the time stop going OTT.
Rangers Fans Praised For Barcelona Behaviour
Nov 9 2007
Rangers' Nou Camp Aftermath ..
RANGERS heaped praise on the 20,000 fans who travelled to Barcelona for their Champions League clash.
They took over the Catalan city centre and large sections of the Nou Camp without any serious incidents.
Ibrox safety and operations manager Kenny Scott said: "By any standards, this was a huge turnout. When you consider the number of people involved - many without tickets for the match - and the fact there were no significant incidents or arrests then that is a positive outcome and supporters deserve credit for that."
With regards to above, if Kenny Scott and his family were holidaying in Barcelona he'd have a different view. No arrests does not mean that most Ranger's fans behaved like loud, aggressive, nasty yobs during their visit. The selfishness and arrogance shown by most of these 20,000 is also being mirrored by some of the comments on this board.
I had no previous views on Rangers. Now I do. Rangers fans = not nice people!
I live in London. In Central London we are subjected to any number of rallies, protest gatherings, major sporting events, festivals etc. Same as Barcelona. All of these events leave a mess to a greater or lesser extent and have drunkenness and rowdy behaviour associated with them- it's part of city life, and part of what it is that people visit the city for. Fortunately, if you want to avoid it, the city is always big enough to go to another part and see something else. Tourists who visit London and end up caught up in these events often have their time spoiled as a result of not having realised what was on when they booked a place right in the middle of it all, and obviously this results in disappointment and a less than pleasurable experience.
I don't think this many Scots fans could have gone anywhere and not upset some people, but I also know that many friends were made in Barcelona, despite the place being scaremongered in advance by possibly the same type of people who are on here complaining. I spoke with my Catalan friends who got me the tickets when I got back about the reaction on blogs like this and they were very dismissive saying that Las Ramblas is always like that with visiting football teams, just with less numbers. They were very complimentary of the Rangers fans' support and passion for their team. I'm glad I called them, I was starting to think I had witnessed an abomination and was totally unaware of it.
hilariously my comments were described as biased as agains tpoor little rangers who the whole world apprently has a conspiracy against, yet the argument to prove that they all behaved themselves is a quote from the most unbiased source out there, Ibrox safety and operations manager Kenny Scott.
Someone official from rangers said it, it must be true, Sir David would be proud of you!!
Anyone and everyone assocciated with Rangers FC have shown no remorse or given any apology for the way most of thhe 25000 so called fans have behaved.
Frightened and disgusted locals, tourist's holidays ruined and total disrespect for another country seems the order of the day. Just imagine a loud foul mouthed pissed up bachelor's party of 10 guys being a nuisance around your town and then multiply that by 2500. This will give the sort of idea what people had to endure!
There were few arrest and no major violence, but this should not disguise the nuisance and bad behaviour that was endured by many people last week!!!
At 1:43 PM, Anonymous said…
Anyone and everyone assocciated with Rangers FC have shown no remorse or given any apology for the way most of thhe 25000 so called fans have behaved.
Frightened and disgusted locals, tourist's holidays ruined and total disrespect for another country seems the order of the day. Just imagine a loud foul mouthed pissed up bachelor's party of 10 guys being a nuisance around your town and then multiply that by 2500. This will give the sort of idea what people had to endure!
There were few arrest and no major violence, but this should not disguise the nuisance and bad behaviour that was endured by many people last week!!!
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Correction - NO ARRESTS
We only went for the party!
It doesn't matter what the gers fans did. It doesn't justify sending over a corrupt referee to make bizarre decisions & break the hearts of a nation.
Hijo de puta!
I'm so glad the Scots are not going to Austria and Switzerland. After what we put up with in Barcelona thank heavens other people (e.g. the Austrians and Swiss) do not have to put up with the same pissed up yob culture and behaviour!
Never thought they would qualify. Bit sad really! Never mind, Glasgow can keep that sort of mentallity and behaviour all to itself for a while longer!!!
Extract from Newcastle Fanzine Editors Article
Celtic should not be invited back to Newcastle and it saddens me deeply
to say it. Not for the first time has their support visted our city and
generated sheer disgust at their behaviour...........there is a large
section of Celtic's support in Newcastle who behave in a thoroughly
obnoxious manner.......
..........they do bring some of the detrius of Scotland with them and
despite the money generated for Newcastle United, their visits have to
be put to an end. A good 30% of their following simply don't know how to
behave and see these visits south as an opportunity to behave completely
without a lack of regard, respect for our city and without
dignity.........
Around the city, Celtic fans left a trail of rubbish - as any
self-respecting Geordie Mam would ask - I wonder what their homes are
like - and as I made my way up Blackett St queues of absolutely stotting
Celtic fans urinated in the streets in full view of women and children
and appeared to take a delicious pride in their bone-headed behaviour.
Its not the vulgar displays of their Roman Catholicism - huge crucifixes
prominently displayed by some who I'd guess haven't found their way into
a Church for many a year - that's a matter for them, though it cheapens
an ancient religion in a way none of their detractors could ever do. Not
so much Catholic kitsch but bling. Its not even the renditions of
irrelevant Rebel Songs but it is the constant abuse of Alan Shearer,
which was meant to be provocative but were largely blanked by supporters
inside SJP bemused by their hostility to a man who has no history with
them...........shameful that they have to abuse a player who didn't play
against them in a proper fixture..........
But most seriously the hail of bottles and glasses hurled towards St.
Andrew's St. from Gallowgate, under the Chinese arch next to the
Tyneside Irish Centre (who rumour tells me ironically weren't keen on
being swamped by support from Scotland) by Celtic fans was criminally
dangerous, completely indiscriminate and should end the invitations to
Celtic Football Club to visit SJP. I saw bottles narrowly missing
families and they were being thrown with wreckless intensity. Remember
this was a game to which U-11s were encouraged with free admission.
Its truly sad when a fanzine feels the need to call for a football club
to be banned from our city because large numbers of their supporters
can't conduct themselves acceptably.
Jack.
I myself have witnesed for years how you geordies behave in scotland. Aberdeen is awash with loudmouthed agressive geordie wankers who are always slagging off jocks and how backward our country is. why dont you fuck off and get a job in your own country then.
Extract from Newcastle Fanzine Editors Article
Celtic should not be invited back to Newcastle and it saddens me deeply
to say it. Not for the first time has their support visted our city and
generated sheer disgust at their behaviour...........there is a large
section of Celtic's support in Newcastle who behave in a thoroughly
obnoxious manner.......
..........they do bring some of the detrius of Scotland with them and
despite the money generated for Newcastle United, their visits have to
be put to an end. A good 30% of their following simply don't know how to
behave and see these visits south as an opportunity to behave completely
without a lack of regard, respect for our city and without
dignity.........
Around the city, Celtic fans left a trail of rubbish - as any
self-respecting Geordie Mam would ask - I wonder what their homes are
like - and as I made my way up Blackett St queues of absolutely stotting
Celtic fans urinated in the streets in full view of women and children
and appeared to take a delicious pride in their bone-headed behaviour.
Its not the vulgar displays of their Roman Catholicism - huge crucifixes
prominently displayed by some who I'd guess haven't found their way into
a Church for many a year - that's a matter for them, though it cheapens
an ancient religion in a way none of their detractors could ever do. Not
so much Catholic kitsch but bling. Its not even the renditions of
irrelevant Rebel Songs but it is the constant abuse of Alan Shearer,
which was meant to be provocative but were largely blanked by supporters
inside SJP bemused by their hostility to a man who has no history with
them...........shameful that they have to abuse a player who didn't play
against them in a proper fixture..........
But most seriously the hail of bottles and glasses hurled towards St.
Andrew's St. from Gallowgate, under the Chinese arch next to the
Tyneside Irish Centre (who rumour tells me ironically weren't keen on
being swamped by support from Scotland) by Celtic fans was criminally
dangerous, completely indiscriminate and should end the invitations to
Celtic Football Club to visit SJP. I saw bottles narrowly missing
families and they were being thrown with wreckless intensity. Remember
this was a game to which U-11s were encouraged with free admission.
Its truly sad when a fanzine feels the need to call for a football club
to be banned from our city because large numbers of their supporters
can't conduct themselves acceptably.
Jack.
I myself have witnesed for years how you geordies behave in scotland. Aberdeen is awash with loudmouthed agressive geordie wankers who are always slagging off jocks and how backward our country is. why dont you fuck off and get a job in your own country then.
Stop being so up yourselves. Yes, Spain has had a bit of a ressurgence in the last few years but how dare you look down your noses at us. Scottish people & it's Culture are recognised the world over. With the Irish we are probably the two most popular countries the world over.
The Spanish have the reputation of being arrogant & lazy. I know that this is not true after living in Spain. We have the best football fans in the world. An opinion held by most footballing nations.
You may look down on us because we like a drink & like to party but anyone in Glasgow at the weekend will tell you that it was the best atmosphere they have ever experienced.
It's wet, It's cold & we are constantly dissapointed by football but I would much rather be Scottish than Spanish.
Viva Escocia!
Your referee is a disgrace. His performance at the weekend means it will be a while until the Spanish are welcomed back to our beautiful country!
spanish wine drinking poofs
get a life you sad ingrates tims with culture big jock knew say no more haha ha
What about the Spanish fans that were making racist chants to the black England players during a friendly in the Bernabeu ???? Why dont u concentrate on ur own fans first eh ??? Your just as worse as the Italians!! And why were the barca fans chanting about IRA in the first place ??? they're terrorists!!
To find out who the real scum of Glasgow are, all you have to do is press CTRL-F, then search for the word "fenian", then search for the word "hun".
Celtic fans are full of bigots. If they could afford to send 25,000 fans to a city, you think 0 of them would take a pee in the street?
Celtic fans are bigoted and this blog is embarrassing.
ok this behaviour is unacceptable. but how many gers fans went to barcelona? and how many where pissing against the statue..?? u r judging 20000 away support on about 10 people pissing on a wall..
As for celtic what are they talking about??gestures made towards claudio reyna about 9/11...
and look at their behaviour in milan...
also their behaviour in FRIENDLY GAMES against Newcastle and Chelsea and what about even Ajax..
how hypocritical are celtic FC???
i was in barcelona, and the way rangers fans were treated was wrong. thousands of us dumped in a square and left, some of us got driven to the stadium beforehand to show us where it was, but we werent told where our buses would collect us at the end of the game. this is an obviously biased report because there are idiots who support every clubs, for example i was sitting in a pub in barcelona with some other rangers fans. there were some spanish lads sitting in the pub who were going to the match, so we started talking... then some agressive fans approached the pub, threw us out (literally by the scruff of the neck). every club/race/religion/nationality has stupid minorities, but we dont complain that all spanish are manky pickpockets...
Not just Rangers Fans iam afraid , Glasgow Keltic came to my city also and behaved like idiots , drunk and abusive to my passing family aswell as others, they left our city with a sour taste, very ignorant racist people , especially anti english chants and i know their nationale team to be the same, i always thought scots where friendly and nice people but i feel this to be a big myth .
Jali
The huns leave a city in disgrace, what's new?
Can i just say the Rangers took 25,000.fan to Barcelons outwith a final the biggest support going abroad...The behavoir of some people on here is far more negative than any behavoir of the fans in Spain....Every Rangers game in europe this season all the way to the UEFA cup final there has not been one arrest...Pretty amzing if you aske me....
An you question there intelegance and stupidity of the few and not the masses...Yes i know who look like fools and it is not the few fans who drink to much but the masses who write nonsense about the few.....
This is ridiculous. Rangers are a club are victimised by UEFA. There is a major racism issue in Spain and many Eastern European countries including Zenit St Petersburg who refuse to sign black players in fear of a fan revolt. These scenes in the pictures are unacceptable however such scenes are an issue worldwide and when you consider problems encountered from european(inc catalonians who interrupt games by throwing objects e.g. a pigs head at club legend Luis Figo) to firearms in South American and indeed the issue with the British drinking and lout culture it would be unfair to single out an individual set of supporters. Such minority incidents do not always represent true fan base.
Aye, Septic fans have got a great reputation in Spain!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuMq_WNoRZE
and Scotland fans are mostly drunken @r$eholes as well!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hli7_3I246o
I'm not here to argue that these idiot Rangers fans pictured have done nothing wrong, but to say that Rangers are the problem, and everyone else behaves like saints is just a total nonsense!!!
I'm sure you can find plenty of pictures of drunken Scottish, English, Irish, and Welsh people abroad who are behaving in an unacceptable manner under the influence of alcohol!! They're not all Rangers fans!!! It's a drinking culture in Britain that is alien to most of europe!!!
It's very easy to have a go at Rangers fans, especially in light of the troubles in Manchester, but it's just as easy to have a go at fans of every other club in Britain!!
Hey if you would please read my blog and look at the pics you will see rangers fans for exactly what they are. bigoted, racist, hate filled animals! and please join
celtic fans are just as bad
They are vile, bigotted scum. Scotland's Shame.
I hope the police in Valencia sort them out.
Celtic fans are not "just as bad". Celtic visited Barcelona more recently than Rangers and had no trouble...again. They did not pi** in the fountains. And by the way, claiming that the Rangers fans didn't know who the statues were erected for is surely a pathetic excuse. The fans were applauded on their way out of the stadium by Police and Medical staff and, once again, were praised for their behaviour by local populace and dignitaries. Search the Interpol or Crimewatch databases and you will only find one Scottish club mentioned. Minority? Probably. But severity and local disgust? Certainly. Heal thyself before it's too late, and it really will be too late.
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